Azeroth’s got talent

October 25, 2008

I finally have a way of presenting talent builds that I’m reasonably happy with. But the presentation is a bit… um… complex… sigh… Maybe too complex; I’m not sure. Perhaps you could help me out by having a look at the tables here and telling me whether studying them has lead you to:

  1. enlightenment
  2. befuddlement
  3. a migrane
  4. all three

Anyway here we go…

(Caution: the examples here are from pre-patch-3.0.2 data.)

We start with the basic x/y/z builds for a class and their relative popularity. For example the most popular level 70 priest build is 20/41/0 at about 14%. So we want to know what actual talents are used in that build. And we want to know how many points the average 20/41/0 priest puts into each talent (what I will call the points “spend”). That is, not everyone puts 5 points into a 5-point talent.

So for every popular build, we want a table with these columns:

Tree Tier Talent Popularity Spends

There will be some variation across these columns. 20/41/0 is just three sums and within the 20 and the 41, priests have made various decisions around a basic group of talents.

The most simple case is when there is consensus around a talent. For example, the vast majority of 20/41/0 priests take Unbreakable Will as a tier 1 discipline talent. So we get this:

Tree Tier Talent Popularity Spends
Discipline 1 Unbreakable Will 97% 5 of 5: 98%

Only 3% of 20/41/0 priests don’t take Unbreakable Will. Of the 97% who do take it, only 2% of them don’t put the full 5 points into it. Capische?

Then we have talents where there is less of a consensus.

For example the tier 5 Holy talent Healing Prayers is taken by only 39% of 20/41/0 priests. And those that do take it are split about how many points it deserves: just over half think it is worth the full two points and just under half think that it is only worth 1 point. So we get a line like this:

Tree Tier Talent Popularity Spends
Holy 5 Healing Prayers 39% 2 of 2: 59% 1 of 2: 41%

These lines by themselves are not overwhelming; it’s when they all come together that we get information overload. Note that only talents and spends taken by at least 10% of the sample are shown, otherwise the table would be beyond comprehension.

Here is the full analysis for the 20/41/0 pre-3.0.2 priest: Behold!

Tree Tier Talent Popularity Spends
Discipline 1 Unbreakable Will 97% 5 of 5: 98%
Discipline 2 Improved Power Word: Fortitude 94% 2 of 2: 99%
Discipline 2 Silent Resolve 88% 4 of 5: 46% 5 of 5: 34% 1 of 5: 12%
Discipline 2 Improved Power Word: Shield 34% 3 of 3: 90% 1 of 3: 10%
Discipline 3 Meditation 99% 3 of 3: 99%
Discipline 3 Inner Focus 94% 1 of 1: 100%
Discipline 3 Absolution 21% 1 of 3: 80% 2 of 3: 13%
Discipline 4 Mental Agility 94% 5 of 5: 78% 4 of 5: 13%
Holy 1 Improved Renew 99% 3 of 3: 99%
Holy 1 Holy Specialization 91% 5 of 5: 59% 3 of 5: 16% 2 of 5: 15%
Holy 1 Healing Focus 89% 2 of 2: 97%
Holy 2 Divine Fury 95% 5 of 5: 97%
Holy 2 Spell Warding 11% 5 of 5: 63% 2 of 5: 19%
Holy 3 Inspiration 87% 3 of 3: 89%
Holy 3 Holy Nova 23% 1 of 1: 100%
Holy 4 Improved Healing 99% 3 of 3: 99%
Holy 4 Holy Reach 75% 2 of 2: 93%
Holy 5 Spiritual Guidance 98% 5 of 5: 94%
Holy 5 Spirit of Redemption 94% 1 of 1: 100%
Holy 5 Healing Prayers 39% 2 of 2: 59% 1 of 2: 41%
Holy 6 Spiritual Healing 100% 5 of 5: 99%
Holy 7 Holy Concentration 92% 3 of 3: 91%
Holy 7 Lightwell 15% 1 of 1: 100%
Holy 8 Empowered Healing 100% 5 of 5: 96%
Holy 9 Circle of Healing 99% 1 of 1: 100%

Still with me? Please do take a second and tell me if a table like that is genuinely useful. If it isn’t, I’m happy to have another go at the problem.

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3 Responses to “Azeroth’s got talent”

  1. yonnodie Says:

    Something you might want to consider adding to your table that I know at least I would find useful is a color-code or progress-bar style indicator for talent spends box. e.g. if spend% > 90% = green, 80%-90% = yellow green, 70-80 = yellow etc and/or a scale bar showing the percent e.g. 50px wide for 100%. Who knows maybe even a color-changing scaling bar! Up to you but it would make a quick visual analysis quicker.

  2. Wilhuf Says:

    I love this table! Please update it for level 80 values when possible.

  3. zardoz Says:

    Cheers. I’ll be starting a scan for WotLK data next week. Shouldn’t be too much longer before we can see all new 70-80 data.


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